Crazy Debt Collector Answering Machine Message

Debt collectors constantly cross the line. They at least work hard to walk right up to the line. There are laws that protect you from inappropriate debt collection, but many of them are complicated and debt collectors are always devising systems that try to harass you while trying to stay barely within the guidelines of the law. One of these rules, of course, is not to discuss your debt situation with anyone else. Below is a tape of an actual recording devised by a debt collector to get around this matter while at the same time using a recording devise to spread the news about the debt. Does it cross the line? You decide. The truth of the matter is that the automatic stay provisions of the Bankruptcy Code are often your best recourse to stop all calls. Many times the issue is not just one debt that is unpaid. Often times you are overwhelmed with debt. This requires a more global response to solving your debt problems and in getting a fresh start that only bankruptcy can provide.

Michael Vick Files For Bankruptcy

You remember Michael Vick? He is the former NFL quarterback who is serving a 23-month prison term for plotting to run an interstate dogfighting ring. On top of that, on July 8, 2008 he filed for Chapter 11 reorganization. According to Bloomberg News, Vick cited debts of $10 million to $50 million in Chapter 11 papers filed yesterday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Newport News, Virginia. He listed assets valued at between $10 million and $50 million.

It is reported that Vick’s hope is that by filing bankruptcy that he can, after the conclusion of the bankruptcy case, rebuild his life on a personal and spiritual level, resurrect his image as a public figure, and resolve matters with the NFL such that he can resume his career,” Vick’s lawyers said in the bankruptcy filing.

Vick, 28, the No. 1 pick in the National Football League’s 2001 college draft and a three-time Pro Bowl choice with the Atlanta Falcons, was indefinitely suspended by the league when he agreed to enter his August 2007 felony plea. He is due to be released from the U.S. penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kansas, in about a year, according to court papers.

A federal judge in December gave Vick less than half the maximum penalty for his role in buying, training and killing dogs while funding gambling on fights held on his property in Surry County, Virginia. He also received three years probation.

Vick pleaded guilty to conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal-fighting venture. He publicly apologized for his actions and said he would stand against animal cruelty.

His creditors include The Atlanta Falcons, which are owed $3.75 million for a pro rated signing bonus according to the filing. Other of the largest unsecured creditors listed include Joel Enterprises Inc., owed $4.5 million for breach of contract, and Royal Bank of Canada, owed $2.5 million for a real-estate loan.

Barack Obama Proposes Bankruptcy Reforms

According to the Associated Press and Fox News, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has proposed changing bankruptcy laws to fast-track the process for military families, help seniors keep their homes, and protect people recovering from natural disasters. In doing so, Obama also accused Republican rival John McCain of repeatedly siding with the banking industry, saying, “When it comes to strengthening the safety net for hardworking families, he’s been part of the problem, not part of the solution.”

Obama stated, “Like the president he hopes to succeed, Sen. McCain does not believe the government has a real role to play in protecting Americans from unscrupulous lending practices. He would continue to allow the banks and credit card companies to tilt the playing field in their favor, at the expense of hardworking Americans.”

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds responded in a statement: “Eighteen Democrats and John McCain worked together on the bipartisan Senate bankruptcy bill, and Barack Obama’s rigid partisanship and self-promoting political attacks show that he’s a typical politician — which is the problem in Washington, not the solution.”

Obama’s new proposals supplement his broader — and previously announced — bankruptcy reform agenda that includes changes intended to help people in financial distress because of medical bills and allow homeowners going through the bankruptcy process to renegotiates terms of their mortgages.

The Democrat said he also would help service members and military families struggling financially after multiple moves, lengthy deployments and, in some cases, predatory lenders, saying, “If you’re protecting America, America should be protecting you from unfair bankruptcy laws.”

He pledged to expedite the bankruptcy process for them by exempting them from a “harsh means test,” cutting “unnecessary paperwork” and “token counseling,” and enacting a minimum homestead exemption to help them keep a greater share of their home’s value.

Obama also wants to allow a speedier bankruptcy process for all service members regardless of what state they live, a departure from current law that says people can use federal bankruptcy exemption laws if their state of residence allows. Some 35 states bar families from federal exemptions, according to a campaign-issued fact sheet.

As for seniors, Obama said, “I’ll help make sure that if you’re over 62 and facing bankruptcy, you’ll have a better chance of keeping your home.”

He said people in that age bracket would get a minimum federal homestead exemption equal to the median cost of a home in their state, “giving them a better chance to keep their homes and helping them maintain both their independence and their financial security.”

In addition, Obama said he would help families recovering from a natural disaster by streamlining the bankruptcy process for those in certified natural disaster areas by eliminating “unnecessary paperwork” and waiving “unneeded credit counseling requirements.”

He also promised to enact a 120-day moratorium “on adverse credit actions from collectors, such as foreclosure” to free families from concerns about collectors as they are trying to recover. And, his campaign said he would amend the Equal Credit Opportunity Act, which bars discrimination in lending, to include protection for disaster victims, so that lenders do not unfairly restrict credit to such families.

There Are Consequences In Failing To Compromise In Bankruptcy

Make no mistake about it.  If you have a disputed claim hanging over your head, sometimes bankruptcy can put you in the driver’s seat.  If you are not the debtor and a defendant in some action filed in bankruptcy, maybe you should think twice about not compromising or settling your case.  Litigation is unpredictable.  Just because you feel slighted by the fact someone filed bankruptcy is no excuse to resolve a dispute.

Case in point is In re Martnkim Dining, LLC, d/b/a Dos Rios Restaurant filed in the Western District of Texas.  Here, the Debtors, who filed bankruptcy, brought an adversary proceeding (similar to a lawsuit but filed in the bankruptcy court) against the people from whom they had purchased their restaurant believing these individuals had committed civil fraud and had provided them false financial statements in the sale of the restaurant.

The Defendants pushed forward.  They refused the settled.  The Bankruptcy Court ultimately found for the Defendants, finding that they did not engage in fraud in the sale of the restaurant to the Debtors.  However, the Court discovered the Defendant’s unusual accounting practices, in which an estimated $100,000.00 in cash paid to them while they owned the restaurant had been diverted to their personal account, which they neither reported to the IRS nor did they pay sales tax on the money to the State of Texas.

So, out of the frying pan and into the fire these Defendants jump, probably finding themselves in more trouble, than if they had tried to settle this case with the Debtors.

Credit Card Debt Calculator

If you are having trouble determining if you even have a chance of buying yourself out of your credit card debt, I suggest you try the Credit Card Debt Calculator.  You can see it and use it by CLICKING HERE.

For example, I went to this calculator, stated a credit card balance of $10,000.00, at 18% interest and a monthly payment of $175.00 per month.  The Calculator showed that it would take 131 months (over 10 years) to pay off this credit card balance.  And, this assumes that nothing more is ever charged to this account.  Further, it showed, in order to pay the card off over this time, that it would take $22,872.40 and that the interest paid on this original $10,000.00 debt would be a whopping $12,872.40.  (It begs the question that if you do not have the $10,000.00 to pay off this debt, where or how are you going to come up with the additional $12,872.40).

Pay an extra $25.00 a month and it has a pretty substantial impact, but it will still takes 94 months (over 7 years) to pay off the original $10,000.00, and it would still cost you an additional $8,622.36 in interest.

We use to call this “loan sharking”.  No it is legal, only now the big banks are in charge of doing it.  Do not think, however, that you are not the victim.  It is just legal now to victimize you.

All of this supposes as well that you are never late on a payment or that your interest rate does not increase over this 94 to 131 month period.  It also supposes that nothing go wrong, ever, during this time.  We all know that is very unlikely.

Bankruptcy is an option for precisely this reason.  I would be happy to meet with you about these financial issues.